Them And Us

All that are Christ-like are Christians and are called by no other name unless they are denying Christ.[48] [Return to 73]

You Jewish Believers in Jesus don’t want to be identified with Christianity[49] so you figure that by calling yourselves Messianic Jews and the rest of us “Gentile Christians,” you will not be directly associated with Christianity. (Remember, the Jews see the Christians as being responsible for the Holocaust, Inquisitions, and Crusades.[50]

But what the Jews didn’t know then, and still don’t know, is that ALL THAT SAYS [sic] I’M A CHRISTIAN IS [sic] NOT A CHRISTIAN. Those were pseudo-Christians that [sic] didn’t walk as Christ walked[51], and were rebellious and filled with hatred for anybody that was different than they.[52])

So-called Messianic Jews, you don’t have boldness and spiritual guts enough to not care about other Jews telling you that you are no longer Jews, even if it means in a sense denying Christ. G-d forbid! Repent! You are no longer Jews practicing Judaism, but you are Hebrews/Israelis practicing Christianity as others are of other nationalities and ethnic groups practicing Christianity -- CHRISTIANS.[53] If you don’t want to call yourself a Christian, go ahead, but you’ll have to answer to G-d for that.[54] No matter how grave the persecution is for being called a Christian, for Heaven sake don’t deny being a Christian by calling yourself a “Messianic Jew” or a “Completed Jew” – that is outright denying Christ as you transition yourselves out of the New Covenant and back into the Old Covenant.[55]

The Word of G-d says a Jew is one inwardly and not outwardly (Romans 2:29), and also it is [sic] neither Jew nor Greek (others), but all is [sic] one before G-d. This means, those former Gentiles and Jews that have now taken on the Son of The G-d of Israel are all Christians[56] (Christians in Jewish clothing or Hebrew clothing). Since Gentiles have been grafted into the Olive Tree as sons of G-d and spiritual Jews[58] wearing their new name (Christian), they are no longer heathens, and therefore should no longer be referred to as Gentiles or Gentile Christians[59] as a means of separating them from Messianic Jews who believe Jesus as their Messiah. If this grafting in makes both Jew and Greek one and the same, and the Olive Tree is not a half-breed, but is a full olive tree[60], then all believers in Jesus Christ as Messiah are Christians – One Body of Christ – no Gentile Christians; no Messianic Jews.

“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:27-28).[61]

Christians (former Gentiles/heathens), you are new creatures in Christ and you bear a new name, Christian, meaning like Christ Jesus. Being like Jesus you cannot be a Gentile because a Gentile cannot at the same time be ...

“. . . a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew [sic] forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous [sic] light. Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of G-d: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy” (1 Peter 2:9-10).[62]

There are no Messianic Jews and Gentile Christians that believe Jesus is the Messiah. [sic] There is no such [sic]. [63]
 

[48] Only Believers in Mashiach who speak English call themselves “Christians.” Since all non-English-speaking Believers in Mashiach have a different word in their native language that they call themselves, then according to Ms. Nero they are “denying Christ” because they don't refer to themselves using the same English word that Ms. Nero uses. What total and complete arrogance! [Not to mention ignorance!]

[49][54] I can't speak for other Messianic Jews, but click here to find out why after over 30 years as a Christian Pastor [in Ms. Nero's vocabulary I would actually have been a “Hebrew Christian Baptist Pastor”], I no longer think of myself as “Christian.” It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with denying “Christ,” only with separating myself as far as possible from people like Ms. Nero who obviously are consumed by hatred for the Jewish people while saying that they follow the King of the Jews!

[50] The Inquisition and Crusades, as well as nearly all of the rest of the persecution of the Jewish people over the past 1,700, including the current wave of “Christian” anti-Semitism demonstrated by Ms. Nero’s venomous, inflammatory, and hysterical ramblings, were (and still are), in fact, either directly performed or at least sanctioned by the official, organized “Christian church,” claiming that they derived their authority from a false Gentile “god” named “Jesus” that they have created in their own image, and who bears no resemblance at all to the historic Yeshua of Nazareth, Who is the true and only-begotten Son of G-d and Israel’s King Messiah. The Holocaust was the direct fruit of the poisonous seeds of hatred of all things Jewish planted by Martin Luther and carried out by his kinsmen of the Third Reich. Where were all the “true Christians” who stood by silently while it happened?

[51] As we have repeatedly pointed out above, the historical Yeshua of Nazareth walked as a Torah-observant Jew, as did all of his Talmidim.

[52] People just like Ms. Nero has proven herself to be.

[53] A Black person who believes in Messiah does not stop being Black. An Hispanic person who believes who believes in Messiah does not stop being Hispanic. An Asian who believes in Messiah does not stop being Asian. An Eskimo who believes in Messiah does not stop being an Eskimo. An Irishman who believes in Messiah does not suddenly lose his red hair and freckles and stop being Irish. Then why and how does a Jew who believes in Messiah stop being a Jew??? Jewishness has to do with genetics, not with any belief system!!

[56][57] Once again she errs, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power thereof! Rav Sha'ul taught that it is not circumcision or uncircumcision of the flesh that makes one a true Jew, but rather faith in the Jewish Messiah and a pure condition of the heart. Rav Sha'ul never, ever called a Messianic Believer a “Christian.”

[58] Gentiles are never called “Spiritual Jews” in Scripture. That is only the heresy of “Replacement Theology” speaking. Non-Jewish people who believe in Messiah Yeshua are grafted into the Olive Tree and are sometimes referred to as part of “Spiritual Israel.”

[59] For someone who obviously hates Jews so intensely, Ms. Nero certainly seems to be trying to call herself a Jew! “Gentile” is the proper term for any person who is not a direct descendant of Avraham, Yitzhak, and Ya'akov. It is no more possible for a Gentile to become a Jew then it is for a Jew to become a Gentile. Genetics simply does not work that way!

[60] She obviously knows as little about botany and horticulture as she does about theology. When a branch is grafted into a tree, it does not become the tree—it is still a branch. The branch becomes a part of the tree; the tree does not become part of the branch. The branch draws its life from the tree; the tree does not draw its life from the branch. Gentiles who are grafted into the Olive Tree of Israel become part of “Spiritual Israel” through adoption, but they are still genetically non-Jews, or Gentiles. They do not become physical descendants of Avraham, Yitzhak, and Ya'akov.

[61] Rav Sha'ul is referring to the fact that the process of salvation is the same for male or female, bond or free, Jew or Gentile. Messianic men are still men; Messianic women are still women. Messianic slaves are still slaves; Messianic freemen are still free. Messianic Gentiles are still Gentiles; Messianic Jews are still Jews. Salvation does not set aside reality.

[62]Kefa (Peter) was quoting from Exodus 19:1-6, in which G-d used the words “royal priesthood” and “holy nation” in reference to Israel, not the “Gentile church.” His letter was written to Jewish Believers [“Messianic Jews”], not to Gentiles. Gentile Believers can ONLY be “royal priesthood” and “holy nation” when they are “grafted in” to Israel through faith in Israel’s Messiah!

[63] Since everybody who knows anything about religious statistics knows that there actually are tens of millions of “Gentiles” (the theological term for anybody who is not a Jew) who believe that “Jesus” is the Messiah (the technical term commonly used for these people is “Christians”), and that there actually are now hundreds of thousands of Jewish people (Jews) who actually believe that Yeshua is the Messiah (which makes them “Messianic”), Ms. Nero obviously has a serious problem dealing with reality, and simply creating new definitions for commonly-used English words does not make these people cease to exist.

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